Prince Of England Geoffrey 2,3
General Notes: [Europe_New.FTW] [royalfam.ged] The best thing the Constance theory has going for it is drama. It would make a good movie. Joan was born somewhere around 11871188. Constance was carrying Geoffrey's child in 1186 when Geoffrey was killed. The child, the ill-fated Arthur, was born posthumous. This is the same Arthur, nephew of John, that John allegedly murdered. He had to do penance for his part in the act. So -- if Constance were also Joan's mother, Arthur was Joan's stepbrother and also a stepson to John! Also, Henry II forced Constance to remarry after the death of Geoffrey to one of his favorites, Randulph de Blundeville, Earl of Chester. One could speculate that the reason she needed to marry a man that outlived her by 31 years is that she was pregnant and needed a husband, but the chronology is very tight, as Henry died in 1189 shortly after forcing the match. Great movie material, but it seems a little doubtful. The best thing we can learn from this is that Joan's papal decree shows that no one wanted her to know who her mother really was. It was a secret then and has remained that way through the ages. All we can learn from John's whereabouts was that he was in both France and England at the time Joan was likely conceived. It looks as though the identity of Clementia will be a mystery for a very long time. I was hoping we had something new with the land transfers and the wife of Joan's custodian being named Clemence, but there are too many possible interpretations. -Ken KHF333@aol.com Noted events in his life were: • Record Change, 16 Dec 2002. 2,3 Geoffrey married Countess Of Bretagne Constance, daughter of Count Of Bretagne IV Conan and Princess Of Scotland Margaret, in Jul 1181 2.,3 (Countess Of Bretagne Constance was born on 12 Jun 1166 in Bretagne, France,2,3 died on 31 Aug 1201 in Nantes, Loire-Atlantique, Pays de la Loire, France 2,3 and was buried on 24 Nov 1225 in Pas-de-Calais, Nord-Pas-de-Calais, France 2,3.) |
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