King Of England II Henry 2,3,5
- Born: 5 Mar 1133, Le Mans, Sarthe, Pays de la Loire, France 2,3,5
- Marriage (1): Ykenai or Hikenai Concubine Of England in Unmd 2,3
- Marriage (2): Unknown in Unmd 2,3
- Marriage (3): Princess Of Aquitaine, Queen of England Elbeonore on 11 May 1152 in Bordeaux, Gironde, Aquitaine, France 2,3,5
- Marriage (4): Rosamond De Clifford in not 2,3
- Marriage (5): Annabel Balliol on 18 May 1153 in Unmd 2,3
- Died: 6 Jul 1189, Chinon, Indre-et-Loire, Centre, France at age 56 2,3,5
- Buried: 8 Jul 1189, Fontevrault, Maine-et-Loire, Pays de la Loire, France 2,3,5
 Another name for II was Plantagenet.
General Notes:
[Ancester4.FTW]
[royalfam.ged]
Do we have a date in 1203 as to when Joan was sent to England from
Normandy? This would be interesting and possibly enlightening - John himself
was in Normandy during most of that year, in Le Mans in January but then
moving into Normandy near Argentan and not leaving Normandy although this
time, for good on 5 December. As recorded by Giraldus Cambrensis and the
author of the Histoire de Guillaume le Marechal, John was clearly in the
process of losing hold of Normandy during that year, so it would seem Joan's
relocation to England was part of the overall process of collapse.
As to the issue of Henry I's issue, it may be that he thought the
alliances of his illegitimate brood would not complicate the matter of
succession - however, immediate prior history does not mesh well with this
presumption. The 70-year period preceding Henry I's death involved several
problematic dynastic problems:
A. The forceful taking of the English throne by a bastard his own
father;
B. The lengthy contest for the throne between two brothers his own, being Robert 'Curthose ' and William 'Rufus'
C. His own acquisition of the English throne on the death of William
'Rufus', in place of his absent elder brother Robert, in 1100 [the
resolution of their claims not being decided except on the field of battle in
1106, at Tinchebrai].
Henry I's evident desire was for the succession of his son or at
least one of his sons, and failing that, the succession of his daughter
Matilda. He knew full well, little was guaranteed as to the English
succession, else he would not have required baronial agreement to Matilda's
succession before his death. Do we know, in the event of Matilda's death,
that he would not prefer the accession of his son Robert the bastard known
as Robert de Caen, the Earl of Gloucester over any available nephew ?
Best regards,
John P. Ravilious
Therav3@aol.com[Europe_New.FTW]
[royalfam.ged]
Do we have a date in 1203 as to when Joan was sent to England from
Normandy? This would be interesting and possibly enlightening - John himself
was in Normandy during most of that year, in Le Mans in January but then
moving into Normandy near Argentan and not leaving Normandy although this
time, for good on 5 December. As recorded by Giraldus Cambrensis and the
author of the Histoire de Guillaume le Marechal, John was clearly in the
process of losing hold of Normandy during that year, so it would seem Joan's
relocation to England was part of the overall process of collapse.
As to the issue of Henry I's issue, it may be that he thought the
alliances of his illegitimate brood would not complicate the matter of
succession - however, immediate prior history does not mesh well with this
presumption. The 70-year period preceding Henry I's death involved several
problematic dynastic problems:
A. The forceful taking of the English throne by a bastard his own
father;
B. The lengthy contest for the throne between two brothers his own, being Robert 'Curthose ' and William 'Rufus'
C. His own acquisition of the English throne on the death of William
'Rufus', in place of his absent elder brother Robert, in 1100 [the
resolution of their claims not being decided except on the field of battle in
1106, at Tinchebrai].
Henry I's evident desire was for the succession of his son or at
least one of his sons, and failing that, the succession of his daughter
Matilda. He knew full well, little was guaranteed as to the English
succession, else he would not have required baronial agreement to Matilda's
succession before his death. Do we know, in the event of Matilda's death,
that he would not prefer the accession of his son Robert the bastard known
as Robert de Caen, the Earl of Gloucester over any available nephew ?
Best regards,
John P. Ravilious
Therav3@aol.com
Noted events in his life were:
• Record Change, 16 Dec 2002. 2,3,5
II married Ykenai or Hikenai Concubine Of England in Unmd 2.,3 (Ykenai or Hikenai Concubine Of England was born about 1131 in Westminster, Middlesex, England 2,3.)
II next married in Unmd 2.,3
II next married Princess Of Aquitaine, Queen of England Elbeonore, daughter of Duke Of Aquitaine X Guillaume and Elbeanor De Chatellerault, on 11 May 1152 in Bordeaux, Gironde, Aquitaine, France 2,3.,5 (Princess Of Aquitaine, Queen of England Elbeonore was born in Bordeaux, Gironde, Aquitaine, France,2,3,5 died on 31 Mar 1204 in Aquitaine, France 2,3,5 and was buried in Fontevrault, Maine-et-Loire, Pays de la Loire, France 2,3,5.)
II next married Rosamond De Clifford, daughter of Walter De Clifford and Margaret De Toni, in not 2.,3 (Rosamond De Clifford was born about 1136 in Clifford, Herefordshire, England,2,3 died about 1176 in Woodstock, Oxfordshire, England 2,3 and was buried about 1176 in Godstow Nunnery, Wolvercote, Oxfordshire, England 2,3.)
II next married Annabel Balliol, daughter of Barnard Balliol and Agnes Piquigny, on 18 May 1153 in Unmd 2.,3 (Annabel Balliol was born about 1153 in England 2,3 and died on 31 Mar 1204 2,3.)
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